Gandalf had Bilbo give up the Ring under what amounts to threat of force and while it didn't dominate his mind it was certainly gnawing at the back of it. And that is not even to speak of the uncomporably larger strain Frodo was put under as he got closer and closer to Saurons domain.Īlso the idea that Bilbo easily gave up on the Ring is kind of underselling it. While Bilbo certainly displayed remarkable resistance, would he have been any better at resisting the compulsion in the presence of the Nazgul? I think that Bilbo who had for decades treated the Ring as a useful pinch in an emergency would be even more prone to making the same mistake as Frodo at Weathertop. And even while he never came even close to the One Ring, let alone seen or touched it, he fell to the corruption of the power it could give him.īilbos exposure to the Ring is more prolonged, but Frodos is much more intense. The reason why I think knowledge was the main factor in this corruption is because of Saruman: he studied the Ring-lore in great detail, and knew exactly what the Ring could do.
These desires are far harder to push aside, especially during a war like that, when it is you job to destroy the Ring and Sauron, and hence will prove a far greater obstacle for your mind to resist. It only was after he learned more about the Ring and what it could do: rule over the other Rings and their bearers, and dominate other beings with your will using the Ring, that his visions would've become grander in scale: visions about him ruling the world, overthrowing Sauron, helping the world to be a better place and protecting the Shire he held so dearly from changing. You also have to take note how he acted during the 17 years between Bilbo's Party and the day he learned about what that ring he had actually could do: after all this time, he seemed to be just like Bilbo in terms of corruption. Meanwhile, Frodo had been given incredibly much information about what the Ring was. He still was very attached to it though, but he didn't need that much of his inner strength, morality and willpower to stop himself from doing evil things. So the visions of what he could do with the Ring were based solely on that, so these would be quite harmless. I think the difference lies in their knowledge about the One Ring: Bilbo knew it could made him invisible, and that's it. There are other Tolkien-themed subreddits out there! Say hello to our friends in the following places: We're looking at starting a wiki for these common ones. Try searching before posting a new thread: odds are we've already covered some of the "classic" questions ("Who is Tom Bombadil?", "What happened to the Blue Wizards?", "Why couldn't the Eagles just take the Ring?" etc). Please make use of r/TolkienBooks and r/TolkienArt for these. Posts/comments centring entirely on promotion will be removed. You can share your content, but in a discussion-based format.
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